Joey Thurman We're in a police station. I'm not arrested, I'm not in trouble, right?
Jason Bastin No, not arrested.
Joey Thurman Okay. What is about to happen today? I'm a little nervous.
Jason Bastin We are going to show you some of the training we do, some of the training our officers go through. We're going to start you out on the range and have some of our range instructors, they're going to demo something for you, some CQB, some shield work with some rifles, and you're going to get to watch that. And after that, we're going to put you through some CQB as well-
Joey Thurman Right.
Jason Bastin ... and that's where you're going to be up close. We're not going to let you have a real gun, we're going to let you have some simunitions.
Speaker 3 All right. [inaudible 00:00:46] the top. Very good
Jason Bastin But they hurt if you were to get hit with them and, who knows, maybe we'll even let one of our officers shoot you if you're up for it.
Joey Thurman You're going to shoot me?
Oh.
So we're going to go through that whole thing. What're does CQB stand for?
Jason Bastin Close quarter battle.
Joey Thurman Okay.
Jason Bastin And it is for when our officers engage somebody in a life or death situation up really close, as close as we are, maybe even closer.
Speaker 3 All right, one. All right, grip the pistol. Start the draw but don't pull it all the way out. Two, from there. All right. Three, marry the hands together, watching your sports at hand. Bring it in more. Four, step back, raise the gun up. Put sight picture fire two. All right. Follow him to the ground. Pretend he's going down. He's not a threat finger off the trigger. Start moving around, watch the muzzle. Look for other threats.
Joey Thurman After the firearms training, which might get shot, what are we going to do after that?
Jason Bastin We will show you some taser training.
Speaker 4 So there's one bar facing one way, one bar facing the other. So it's made to go into the clothing, stick in the clothing and not come back out, so it gets that probe through the body and not arcing through the outer surface. Because what it's doing here is it's actually arcing to the closest point of contact. So this is where the two probes will be. And it's crossing that gap. Well, when I spread that gap across here, it's a longer surface. We want that probe thread to go through the body. And now that body absorbs all that voltage, not amperage. Amperage is very, very low. So when you're ready, you can go ahead and pull that trigger.
All right.
Joey Thurman Well.
Speaker 4 So you're seeing, you've got a good connect. It's got a good split, both darts hit. So go ahead and try and aim at the other side of the target.
Good. And just pull the trigger. Taser, taser, taser. All right, you could hear the sound, see how muffled it is?
Joey Thurman Yeah.
Speaker 4 It's working. It's going through there. You heard the first one, it was kind of a louder popping sound, that was not working effectively, but this one made that complete circuit through. And you could hear how quiet it was. It was almost muffled.
Joey Thurman Yeah.
Speaker 4 Because all that electricity was going through the body. You're going to spread the skin as much as possible with one hand. Good. And now pull straight back towards you without raking your fingers. Perfect. You got both probes? Good. Yep. Nothing left in the body. So we'll put it in that cartridge and we'll wrap it all up as evidence.
Joey Thurman Okay, so most of what you guys do is just trying to deescalate, have a conversation with somebody, but if need be, then you've got to take those next steps.
Jason Bastin Yeah. 99% of what we do, we expect our officers to use their brains and their mouths to control the situation.
Joey Thurman Brains instead of brawn?
Jason Bastin Yes. Brains instead of brawn.
Tasers, Guns, and Hand-to-Hand Combat! Behind-The-Scenes Training with the Oswego Police Department
Have you ever stopped to think about what it truly takes to be an officer of the law? Every single day, brave men and women put their lives on the line to protect us but behind that badge is a person who has a lot to lose. Joey Thurman gets a first-hand look at what true police training looks like for the Oswego Police Department.
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